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FEATURED GUESTS: Dr. Mimi Savage is an associate professor and core faculty member in the Master's of Counseling Psychology with Expressive Arts program at CIIS in SF. She has an extensive background in acute milieus and has researched adopted young women and boys from foster care using narrative inquiry, arts based and participatory research on the topic of intersectionality and self identity. She is a founding faculty member of UCLArts and Healing in Los Angeles--now called Integrative Arts and Healing Initiative. She is a registered drama therapist and board certified trainer and mentors an international student body for professionals interested in drama therapy certification at her own school--So Cal Drama Therapy Center. She is now also core faculty for a new program she is helping to launch at CIIS which is Expressive Arts Coaching and Community Building. She is in the process of editing her book for Taylor & Francis/Routledge due next year called The Future of Black Creative Art Therapists: Practice, Pedagogy and Preservation. LISTEN & LEARN: What is narrative inquiry? What is the Personal Public Services Announcement™ (PPSA) method? The importance of identity work when engaging with adolescents. The value of contributing to the field through the use of writing. How to use the PPSA as a tool in participatory arts-based research. Mimi's upcoming book, "The Future of Black Creative Arts Therapists: Pedagogy and Preservation," due in 2026 by Taylor & Francis/Routledge. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Mimi's Session at the Midwest Expressive Therapies Summit - Re-Storying Self-Identity Through Drama, Writing & Masks: Creating Personal Public Service Announcements ™ on May 3, 2025 from 10:00 AM-5:30 PMCT In this day-long three-part master class, participants will have the opportunity to learn the Personal Public Service Announcement™ (PPSA) method, an arts-based approach that was originally developed to generate narrative data using drama therapy techniques with adopted young women in foster care. To introduce this novel format, past peer-reviewed research will be discussed from the empirical-based inquiry. For the majority of our time together, however, participants will be invited to work collaboratively and in embodied ways to create their own PPSAs using a number of expressive arts tools, including creative writing, digital apps, and mask-making. In particular, participants will discover the theory, processes, and outcome of this restorative way of doing participatory research within narrative inquiry. Synthesizing personal explorations to enhance emotional or clinical development — then creatively reconstructing that information and affect into PPSAs with the intent to re-story and restore self-identity while being witnessed — can be very effective in treatment, as well. PLEASE NOTE: Participants' knowledge of qualitative research tenets and methods will be beneficial. The ability to access your narratives without concern about retraumatization will be key to maintaining safety in this session. The Future of Black Creative Art Therapists: Practice, Pedagogy and Preservation will be available for preorder on https://www.routledge.com/ April 2026. Mimi Savage, PhD, RDT, BCT contact msavage@ciis.edu Mimi's SoCaldramatherapycenter http://www.socaldramatherapycenter.com/ Mimi's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mimi-savage-phd-rdt-bct-b0179931/ Need support in creating your practice Email me for a consult: creativeclinician@gmail.com

FEATURED GUESTS: Christine Brooks, PhD is a Professor and the Chair of the Expressive Arts Coaching and Community Building program at California Institute of Integral Studies. Her research interests include adult development, intentional childlessness, qualitative research methods, and transformative processes in coaching. She is a consultant and coach with expertise in social and emotional intelligence, identity development tools such as the enneagram, and leadership and executive presence. When not traveling the roads of the United States to experience the profound variety of people, creativity, landscapes, and regional food ways, she lives in Florida. Shoshana Simons, PhD, RDT is Professor and former Program Chair of CIIS’s MA in Counseling Psychology, Expressive Arts Concentration. She is a drama therapist, voice actor and arts-based coach & consultant. She is also adjunct faculty at the Northwest Creative & Expressive Arts Institute, Seattle, WA, offering a Certificate in NarrARTive Expressive Arts in Coaching. Shoshana has 35+ years of experience in community-building in many settings including with children and adults in the fields of play, education, antiracism, counseling psychology, organizational development, and community work. Dr. Mimi Savage is an associate professor and core faculty member in the Master's of Counseling Psychology with Expressive Arts program at CIIS in SF. She has an extensive background in acute milieus and has researched adopted young women and boys from foster care using narrative inquiry, arts based and participatory research on the topic of intersectionality and self identity. She is a founding faculty member of UCLArts and Healing in Los Angeles--now called Integrative Arts and Healing Initiative. She is a registered drama therapist and board certified trainer and mentors an international student body for professionals interested in drama therapy certification at her own school--So Cal Drama Therapy Center. She is now also core faculty for a new program she is helping to launch at CIIS which is Expressive Arts Coaching and Community Building. She is in the process of editing her book for Taylor & Francis/Routledge due next year called The Future of Black Creative Art Therapists: Practice, Pedagogy and Preservation. LISTEN & LEARN: What does a Master's in Expressive Arts Coaching & Community Building consist of? What is Coaching & Community Building? What is the Scholar-Artist-Practitioner model of pedagogy used in this program? The integration of theory and neuroscience that grounds the program. Brook's definition of loneliness as the perception of social isolation and why community is an integral aspect of healing work. The stipend discount offered for the inaugural cohort in the program. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: https://www.ciis.edu/academics/department-expressive-arts-coaching-community-building The CIIS Expressive Arts Coaching & Community Building Launch Party April 23rd @ 11:30AM PT https://www.ciis.edu/events/launch-party-new-ma-expressive-arts-coaching-community-building Christine Brooks, PhD LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/sofchristinebrooks Shoshana Simons, PhD, RDT CIIS contact https://www.ciis.edu/profiles/shoshana-simons Shoshana's Narrative Expressive Arts Coaching certificate program https://seattlearttherapy.org/narrartive-expressive-arts-coaching-certificate/ Shoshana's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shoshana-simons-b029a34/ Mimi Savage, PhD, RDT, BCT contact msavage@ciis.edu Mimi's SoCaldramatherapycenter http://www.socaldramatherapycenter.com/ Mimi's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/mimi-savage-phd-rdt-bct-b0179931/ Need support in creating your practice email me for a consult: creativeclinician@gmail.com

FEATURED GUESTS: Reina Lombardi, ATR-BC, ATCS, LMHC-QS is a Registered Board Certified Art Therapist, Art Therapy Certified Supervisor, and Licensed Mental Health Counselor Qualified Supervisor. She owns Florida Art Therapy Services, LLC , a full-fee group practice, where she and a team of therapists provide in-person and technology facilitated individual and group art therapy and counseling services, contracted art therapy groups at various community agencies, supervision and continuing education programming for counselors and art therapists. She has contributed to several academic texts on the topics of art therapy and clinical supervision, and is a frequent presenter/speaker at local and national professional conferences. She also owns Creative Clinician’s Corner, LLC where she provides practice building resources and consultation services for creative arts therapists with a desire to build and scale their own private practice. She is the host of The Creative Psychotherapist Podcast where she interviews successful creative therapists about the tools and strategies they used to grow their dream practices, as well as how they have hustled to create additional streams of income using their knowledge and creativity by developing products and services that enhance their therapy practices. LISTEN & LEARN: Why collaborating with other agencies or partnerships can provide alternative fee models to access care in your practice. The benefits of offering one-time wellness and creative-based workshops in your practice. Why community-focused engagements can increase awareness and knowledge of your practice. The importance of keeping your SEO relevant and 5 places to enter keywords on your website. How using an AI chatbot can be beneficial to converting clients. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Get your Bluetooth EMDR Tabs from Dharma Dr. at dharmadr.com/Creative10 and use CREATIVE10 at checkout for a $10.00 off discount Need support in creating your practice email me for a consult: creativeclinician@gmail.com

FEATURED GUESTS: Richard Sims MSME, MSMT, CTP Richard Sims is a Master Somatic Movement Educator/Movement Therapist, Mindfulness, Embodiment and Body Awareness Educator, Certified Trauma Professional, Aikido Instructor, and Somatic Specialist in the areas of stress, fear, anxiety, pain and trauma. He is currently the Board President for ISMETA (International Somatic Movement Education and Therapy Association) where he tirelessly works growing the Somatic Movement Profession and its place in the integrative whole person health field. He also sits on the Board of Aiki Extensions. He teaches adults, children and teens empowering somatic approaches and tools to improve their emotional and physical wellbeing. His trauma informed somatic approach combines the BodyMind connection, as well as our emotions and distress responses with many somatic and mindful methods including Being In Movement® mindbody education, Body Awareness, Breathing, Meditation, Somatic Education, Feldenkrais, Alexander, Trauma Informed Mindfulness, Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) and the principles of the the martial art of Aikido (The Art of Peace). He teaches in person and online globally with individuals and groups. Additionally he runs workshops with allied professionals on how they can incorporate somatic approaches into their practice in a complimentary integrative whole person approach to healing. Richard also works with organizations, schools, non-profits, first responders and companies, helping with their member's challenges that affect their relationships and performance personally, professionally and academically. Some of these groups include: MenHealing (a prominent organization for male sexual abuse survivors and their loved ones) along with thought leaders from the psychotherapeutic field, The Cancer Wellness Center, Illinois Schools, Urban Gateways (curriculum through the arts), the State of Illinois (First responder professional and personal connection, de-escalation, stress and trauma), FORGE (Trans Survivors) and the H.O.M.E. Project, supplying electronic and video based resources and information to over a million incarcerated men and women in 47 states. LISTEN & LEARN: Rich's definition of Somatic Movement approaches to therapy. Legal considerations regarding touch as a somatic movement practitioner and why he has elected to practice as an educator. An experiential game designed to highlight the mind and body working together to construct core beliefs and narratives that may keep us stuck. The benefits of training and seeking out consultation or supervision with an experienced mentor if you want to integrate somatic approaches into your practice. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Web: richardesims.com Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/richard.sims.5667 Instagram:richsims_breathing LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/rich-sims-ab02337/ Sign up for Richard's list Watch one of Rich's favorite exercises designed to help not only calm a racing mind but also a body that may be unable to relax and settle. https://richard-e-sims.kit.com/b79e217651 SESSIONS AT THE SUMMIT: May 3rd 2:30-6:30 pm CT he will be teaching on A Somatic Movement Approach for Healing the Effects of Sexual Abuse & Trauma at the Expressive Therapies Summit MIDWEST 2025 at Double Tree by Hilton Hotel Chicago. OTHER WORKSHOPS: https://menhealing.org/somatic-healing-101-2025/ {Disclaimer: To be transparent, some links to the books/ products mentioned in the show are affiliate links. We receive a small fee if you purchase an item using the links. We use the fees to help us grow and improve the podcast. We will never use an affiliate link to a product that we don't believe in or haven't vetted ourselves. Thank you for your support.}

FEATURED GUESTS: Ericha Scott, PhD, ATR-BC, REAT, LPCC917 Dr. Scott is a healer who walks the fine line between mysticism and evidenced-based psychotherapy. She is a licensed psychotherapist (LPCC917) with additional certifications as a registered and board-certified art therapist (ATR-BC), registered expressive arts therapist (REAT), internationally certified advanced alcohol and drug counselor (ICAADC), and as a certified interfaith spiritual director. In addition, she is an Amazon number one best selling author in six countries, artist, photographer, and poet. For 40 years, she has worked with those who struggle with substance and behavioral use disorders, survivors of trauma, complex trauma, torture, dissociation, victims of sex trafficking, and ritual crime. She is an Honorary Fellow of the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation, the oldest trauma organization in the world, and she was given the Alumni Recognition Award by Sierra Tucson for her work as a trauma and addiction therapist. For ISSTD she was nominated for her research on the topic of profound self-mutilation by those with dissociative identity disorders, and her advocacy for disempowered populations. This research, which included life-sized silhouette drawings and poetry, was published in a peer review journal by UCLA in 1999. Her commitment to health, wellness, and "art as medicine" includes art-based experiential teaching for the medical doctors in Andrew Weil’s University of Arizona Center for Complementary Medicine (8 years), professional clinicians, the public, and her own personal health journey. Her investment in social change via the arts across the world includes travel, presentations, collaboration, and cultural exchange in 4 continents. Her worldwide creative and spiritual workshops bring hope and healing to diverse populations. Several of her peer-reviewed academic publications and lectures have been translated into Prussian, Arabic, Spanish, and Czechoslovakian. Last year, Dr. Scott was the keynote speaker in Cairo for the first international scientific art therapy conference in Egypt. "I give the credit for my success to the power of art to heal and transform even the most challenging problems.” LISTEN & LEARN: Various ways disassociation manifests in an individual. Use of Creative interventions to reveal and challenge cognitive distortions. Use of Body Maps in work with clients experiencing trauma and dissociation. Use of poetry and stream-of-consciousness writing in parts-work. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: https://artspeaksoutloud.org/ or 310-880-9761 for information on her intensive offerings Connect with Dr. Scott at https://artspeaksoutloud.org/ Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/ehitchcockscott Facebook: www.facebook.com/ErichaScottPhD or www.facebook.com/erichascott Twitter: www.twitter.com/ErichaScott YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/ErichaScottPhD To Attend Dr. Scott's FREE ONLINE workshop on Historical & Clinical Perspectives of Art by Patients who Report Extreme, Ritualized, and Organized Trauma on September 27th, 12:00 -1:30PM PDT {Content Advisory: Be aware that this presentation and associated materials contain explicit content regarding ritual abuse, including images and descriptions that may be disturbing. Please engage with care and take breaks or seek support as needed.} SESSIONS AT THE SUMMIT: November 7th, 2024 from 2:00-5:00 pm EST Haiku Poetry and Stream of Consciousness Writing for Release and Relief from Trauma and Dissociation at the Expressive Therapies VIRTUAL Summit 2024. https://www.expressivetherapiessummit.com {Disclaimer: To be transparent, some links to the books/ products mentioned in the show are affiliate links. We receive a small fee if you purchase an item using the links. We use the fees to help us grow and improve the podcast. We will never use an affiliate link to a product that we don't believe in or haven't vetted ourselves. Thank you for your support.}

FEATURED GUESTS: Reina Lombardi, ATR-BC, ATCS, LMHC-QS is a Registered Board Certified Art Therapist, Art Therapy Certified Supervisor, and Licensed Mental Health Counselor Qualified Supervisor. She owns Florida Art Therapy Services, LLC , a full-fee group practice, where she and a team of therapists provide in-person and technology facilitated individual and group art therapy and counseling services, contracted art therapy groups at various community agencies, supervision and continuing education programming for counselors and art therapists. She has contributed to several academic texts on the topics of art therapy and clinical supervision, and is a frequent presenter/speaker at local and national professional conferences. She also owns Creative Clinician’s Corner, LLC where she provides practice building resources and consultation services for creative arts therapists with a desire to build and scale their own private practice. She is the host of The Creative Psychotherapist Podcast where she interviews successful creative therapists about the tools and strategies they used to grow their dream practices, as well as how they have hustled to create additional streams of income using their knowledge and creativity by developing products and services that enhance their therapy practices. LISTEN & LEARN: - What goes into taking an intentional pause - What Reina hopes to learn from taking an intentional pause - Why intentional reflection is important as we grow our businesses RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Need support in creating your practice email me for a consult: creativeclinician@gmail.com

FEATURED GUESTS: Jasmine Parker is a Registered Art Therapist and holds a dual master’s degree in both Mental Health Counseling and Art Therapy. Her clinical experience covers a wide range of settings to include: Residential Treatment, Public Schools, Community Agencies, Psychiatric Hospitals, Medical Hospitals, Juvenile Correctional Centers, and private practice. Jasmine’s vision is to empower young people by providing them with a safe space to express themselves creatively and openly, free from judgment; giving them the opportunity to explore their inner workings and learn how to successfully navigate life's daily challenges. Jasmine is the owner of Listen to Your Art Therapy & Empowerment Services LLC, a company focused on the needs of the clients. Her practice is an art based, group focused and caters to teens and young adults Jasmine’s life goal is to help teens and young adults build resiliency and hope. LISTEN & LEARN: - What goes into operating a mobile art therapy practice. - What Jasmine learned since taking her practice on the road. - Community collaboration as part of a practice business model. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Connect with Jasmine at www.ltyart.com Check out Jasmines Art Therapy Notebook https://www.ltyart.com/category/all-products Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ltyart_tes https://www.instagram.com/Miniatr_dolls Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LTYArt/

FEATURED GUESTS: Reina Lombardi, ATR-BC, ATCS, LMHC-QS is a Registered Board Certified Art Therapist, Art Therapy Certified Supervisor, and Licensed Mental Health Counselor Qualified Supervisor. She owns Florida Art Therapy Services, LLC , a full-fee group practice, where she and a team of therapists provide in-person and technology facilitated individual and group art therapy and counseling services, contracted art therapy groups at various community agencies, supervision and continuing education programming for counselors and art therapists. She has contributed to several academic texts on the topics of art therapy and clinical supervision, and is a frequent presenter/speaker at local and national professional conferences. She also owns Creative Clinician’s Corner, LLC where she provides practice building resources and consultation services for creative arts therapists with a desire to build and scale their own private practice. She is the host of The Creative Psychotherapist Podcast where she interviews successful creative therapists about the tools and strategies they used to grow their dream practices, as well as how they have hustled to create additional streams of income using their knowledge and creativity by developing products and services that enhance their therapy practices. LISTEN & LEARN: How to identify when you are ready to hire help to run your practice. Considerations for which tasks to hire out. Why to onboard before you really need the help. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Need support in creating your practice email me for a consult: creativeclinician@gmail.com

FEATURED GUESTS: Sharon Itkoff Nacache ATR-BC LCAT LPAT PMH-C is a trauma-informed, attachment-based, relational clinician with a virtual practice serving New Jersey and New York. As a perinatal art therapist with almost 15 years of clinical experience, she specializes in supporting those who identify as caregivers–personally or professionally–in cultivating creative resilience in the workplace, throughout their family building journeys, and beyond. Her work has been featured in both the New York and LA Times, and her creative clinical approaches are grounded in principles of cultural humility, humanism, and the healing power of an empathic creative process. Sharon also provides integrative arts-based wellness workshops to aid in burnout prevention and creativity development on the job for employees in both the public and private sectors. She is currently involved with an ongoing partnership with the Whitney Museum of American Art and NYC Health and Hospitals system via their HHC Art of Medicine program, bringing creative spaces to public hospital settings. To learn more visit www.cocreatearttherapy.com. LISTEN & LEARN: Sharon's model of Creative Resilience. The relationship between Role Fatigue and Burnout. The scope of perinatal mental health. The role of self-compassion as therapist and entrepreneur. The benefit of engaging in a modality outside your comfort zone as creative self-care. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Connect with Sharon at www.cocreatearttherapy.com LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/co-create-art-and-reproductive-therapy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cocreatearttherapy/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cocreatearttherapy

FEATURED GUESTS: Reina Lombardi, ATR-BC, ATCS, LMHC-QS is a Registered Board Certified Art Therapist, Art Therapy Certified Supervisor, and Licensed Mental Health Counselor Qualified Supervisor. She owns Florida Art Therapy Services, LLC , a full-fee group practice, where she and a team of therapists provide in-person and technology facilitated individual and group art therapy and counseling services, contracted art therapy groups at various community agencies, supervision and continuing education programming for counselors and art therapists. She has contributed to several academic texts on the topics of art therapy and clinical supervision, and is a frequent presenter/speaker at local and national professional conferences. She also owns Creative Clinician’s Corner, LLC where she provides practice building resources and consultation services for creative arts therapists with a desire to build and scale their own private practice. She is the host of The Creative Psychotherapist Podcast where she interviews successful creative therapists about the tools and strategies they used to grow their dream practices, as well as how they have hustled to create additional streams of income using their knowledge and creativity by developing products and services that enhance their therapy practices. LISTEN & LEARN: Five mindset characteristics to help navigate challenges as a business owner. Why we need to reconsider how we define failure. Using our greatest asset - creativity - in how we approach mindset in business. RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: Need support in creating your practice email me for a consult: creativeclinician@gmail.com
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